How Civilizations Die (And Why Islam Is Dying Too)

How Civilizations Die (And Why Islam Is Dying Too)

How Civilizations Die And Why Islam Is Dying Too You ve heard about the Death of the West But the Muslim world is on the brink of an even greater collapse Will we go down in the implosion Thanks to collapsing birthrates much of Europe is on a path

  • Title: How Civilizations Die (And Why Islam Is Dying Too)
  • Author: David P. Goldman
  • ISBN: 9781596982802
  • Page: 398
  • Format: Unknown Binding
  • You ve heard about the Death of the West.But the Muslim world is on the brink of an even greater collapse.Will we go down in the implosion Thanks to collapsing birthrates, much of Europe is on a path of willed self extinction The untold story is that birthrates in Muslim nations are declining faster than anywhere else at a rate never before documented Europe, even in itsYou ve heard about the Death of the West.But the Muslim world is on the brink of an even greater collapse.Will we go down in the implosion Thanks to collapsing birthrates, much of Europe is on a path of willed self extinction The untold story is that birthrates in Muslim nations are declining faster than anywhere else at a rate never before documented Europe, even in its decline, may have the resources to support an aging population, if at a terrible economic and cultural cost But in the impoverished Islamic world, an aging population means a civilization on the brink of total collapse something Islamic terrorists know and fear.Muslim decline poses new threats to America, challenges we cannot even understand, much less face effectively, without a wholly new kind of political analysis that explains how desperate peoples and nations behave.In How Civilizations Die, David P Goldman author of the celebrated Spengler column read by intelligence organizations worldwide reveals how, almost unnoticed, massive shifts in global power are remaking our future.Goldman reveals How extinctions of peoples, cultures, and civilizations are not unthinkable but certainHow for the first time in world history, the birthrate in the West has fallen below replacement levelWhy birthrates in the Muslim world are falling even fasterWhy the Arab Spring is the precursor of much violent change in the Islamic worldWhy looming demographic collapse may encourage Islamic terrorists to go for broke How the United States can survive the coming world turmoilIn How Civilizations Die, David P Goldman has written an essential book for understanding what lies in the future for America and the world.

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    There's two types of Apocalypse porn: The quick asteroid/nuclear war/zombie collapse and the slow Malthusian/Spenglerian/This-is-the-way-the-world-ends-not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper collapse. Goldman's book is the latter of the highest order. Secularists after reading this book will either go home to commit suicide or turn to their significant other and get down to the business of cranking out babies in the name of Western Modernity.I've been following his column in the Asia Times for years and [...]

    This is a book with a lot of surprises, a lot of twists and turns. Goldman makes some questionable assertions here, but this was one of the most fruitful and thought-provoking books I have read in a long time.

    There are interesting figures/facts about population trends, projections and reproduction rates here. Is there a coming demographic crisis coming in e.g. Middle Eastern countries? Possibly. I myself have wondered what the heck the various countries and peoples of the region will do in 30 or 50 years when oil really begun to tap out. Poor European countries? Possibly there as well.But I don't know how much weight I give his projections do I really believe that in 100 years Germany will be have lo [...]

    This book posits that there is going to be a drastic decrease in the human population and that this is a problem. He cites that a decreasing fertility rate is a common factor among civilizations that fail, and prevention can only be obtained by theocracy. The second problem cited is that there will be a loss of culture, specifically Islam. There’s a lot of good stuff for thinking about in here which is the only reason I give this book three stars. But there is a lot of opinions, omissions, and [...]

    I have read David Goldman for a long time, under his alter ego, Spengler, a columnist for the “Asia Times.” His columns are invariably excellent—pithy, insightful, and a pleasure to read. But the talent set required to be a columnist is very different than that required of a book author. Many columnists are unable to write a book that is other than either a set of compiled columns or a padded out column. The late Joseph Sobran, who wrote for National Review when it more than a forum for th [...]

    I've been reading "birth dearth" books since at least the 1980s; this one offered something new, first because he covers more ancient history than average, second because he covers the Islamic nations (granted, a lot of those I've read were written before the trends there were clear), and, third, because of his analysis of why Islam nations are dying, which I thought an interesting and likely thesis.

    Fertility-obsessed maniac. The book gets a second star as a special award for most creative use of non sequiturs in a purportedly serious work.

    There are much better and more thorough reviews out there. But for my part the book was a very interesting look at the history of dead or dying civilizations and the applications for us today.Generally, fertility rate is key. Once the fertility rate gets below a certain limit, the country has reached a point of no return - where economic devastation is certain (barring a miracle of God - which history has not yet observed concerning this particular demographic).What was most striking to me (and [...]

    Interesting figures. The basic theme of this book is the plunging fertility rates in many countries across the globe and how this is tied to a loss of faith. The author argues that countries lose the "will to live" when they see their culture unable to advance, which normally happens when they turn from religion but cannot replace it with anything enduring. At that point, fertility rates drop and the culture goes into a demographic slide. He says many countries in Europe have already reached the [...]

    Listened to the whole book on a road trip from eastern Ohio to DC back to Knoxville. Definitely achieved its end of keeping me awake and aware throughout. Probably more of a 4.5, but I try to be sparing with 5s.The cover blurb is a pretty accurate summary of a lot of the book, but there is also an intriguing look at Greek history through the demographer's lens and the latter half contains a very provocative overview of the entirety of European history from the end of the Roman Empire to the pres [...]

    A provocative but fascinating book. The author explains how civilizations die--not because of environmental disaster or wars, but because they lose the will to continue living. This is demonstrated in their lack of a willingness to produce a future generation, which is to say, demographics. His evidence of demographic decline in Japan and countries throughout Europe appears very strong.The author thinks the USA and Israel are two societies that will resist the trend towards self-elimination. Som [...]

    Do I believe the authors theory that civilizations die because people stop having children? No, he argues that a sense of despair about your culture or religion results in families no longer making the commitment to raise children and the presence of an inverted pyramid in population distribution leads to the collapse of civilization. Hard to swallow. Worth the read to at least challenge your own conception of how the world works and what the future holds.

    Mark Steyn explained the threat of Islam. David Goldman explains why Islam is threatening but no real threat in the long term. Besides this, the book is a rundown on current demographic trends and what they mean for the world over the next century. There are many surprises. A MUST READ.

    Interesting take on why certain civilizations have failed in the past and will fail in the future. Number one cause of failure - declining birth rates. Predicates that such countries as Japan, Germany, and Iran will within the next 50 years fail as states because the drop in and ageing of their populations will lead to the situation of not enough young people being available to support the aged or man the countries armed forces.According to Goldman, when a tribe or a nation suddenly realizes its [...]

    It is fairly easy to read since the author is a columnist. So the book reads more like a very long article. His perspective is interesting and some of his claims are thought-provoking. The feeling though is that he comes across as one of those political analysts who make claims about the future. But as I was reading it the feeling was that statistics is yet another type of "lie" and that something is not taken into account. I would give the book 3.5 stars, but due to lack of such option, I still [...]

    Very well done and fascinating. Lots of good research here, and a great thesis. The most helpful insights for me were, 1)that a nation with nothing to lose is very dangerous (I had neverrealized that many Islamic nations face drastic secularization thatis leading to lower birth rates), and 2) when a nation ceases to havea sense of purpose, it ceases to have offspring.

    Population control: if certain areas cannot sustain life, others certainly can and are thriving. So some nations migrate into the others. That's the history of mankind. Plenty of room here; takes a day just to drive through Texas.

    The main idea: Fertility rates drop below replacement due to a nation's loss of faith and secularization. Education and literacy rates are key factors in this. The Islamic world is a danger because they face an existential threat, ergo they cannot be expected to act as rational nation states. Europe's fertility rates indicate an economic decline in the next 50-100 years. America is the exception ( only industrialized country without falling fertility rates) due to the individualistic ideals and [...]

    You’ve heard about the Death of the West.But the Muslim world is on the brink of an even greater collapse.WILL WE GO DOWN IN THE IMPLOSION?Thanks to collapsing birthrates, much of Europe is on a path of willed self-extinction. The untold story is that birthrates in Muslim nations are declining faster than anywhere else—at a rate never before documented. Europe, even in its decline, may have the resources to support an aging population, if at a terrible economic and cultural cost. But in the [...]

    A fascinating, if somewhat repetitive treatise on how so much of our world is in a death spiral of population decline. Whodathunkit? Seems all we ever read is how the world is overpopulating itself to death.This book sheds light on the exact opposite for whole swaths of the globe, including Europe, Japan and most notably the Middle East.Goldman dovetails this phenomenon with the root cause, that which seems to be a lack of will to survive in these cultures. It turns out, that America (ie: USA) i [...]

    This book presents an interesting correlation between the religiosity of a society and its growth rate. Suddenly the author tries to find a common aspect of Judaism and Christianity which excludes Islam. With this he tries to show that Islam is a completely different case from the other two religions and thus its fate will divers but then he fails to make this connection but rather starts ranting about the politics of Obama, who -guess what?!- is a Muslim.The author claims that religious people [...]

    Interesting thoughts on How Civilizations Die, although the subtitle should be a clue describing a large part of the book, as the author looks at what he sees as the coming population collapse of countries such as Turkey and Iran. He claims that rich countries such as Western Europe may be able to barely, and through sacrifice, cope with a largely senior population by the middle of this century, but poorer countries like Iran will be unable to cope.One problem I had with the second US President [...]

    I have a bit of mixed feeling about this book. I am very thrilled about the critism on Islam which I share with the author. Next to that, his analysis on falling fertility rates in both Europe and the Middle East are an eye-opener. I think he is right to point the reason at the retreat of christianity and rise of rationalism. Although I do not agree that nationalism helped to bring down to fertility rates too.The least one can say is that the author is kind fond of USA and Israel. He supports a [...]

    De auteur geeft een verrassend beeld van de demografie in de 21ste eeuw. Hoewel geschreven vanuit een Amerikaans-joods perspectief geeft hij toch enkele interessante feiten en analyses. Er is wel een vreemde ondertoon te bemerken wanneer hij schrijft dat christelijke landen die zichzelf als "uitverkoren door God" zagen (Spanje, Frankrijk, Duitsland, etc.) nu allemaal op de rand van de demografische afgrond en ultiem verdwijning bevinden in de volgende eeuw, in tegenstelling tot Israël dat tegen [...]

    I really can find no fault in this excellent work on demographics and the current political order. David Goldman attempts in this work to understand both American politics and Islamic politics from their own perspectives. He grounds his observations in demographics noting that Muslim birthrates are quickly declining. He wants to know why societies cease to have enough children to replace or expand their populations. He concludes that societies give up when they loose their faith. Since American [...]

    Goldman's analysis echoes Patrick Buchanan's in The Death of the West. The plight of the Muslim world was new to me, however, and gives the lie to the idea that Islam is going to take the world by storm simply by virtue of its birthrate. In fact, Islam seems to wither when it comes into contact with modernity, far more so than Christianity. I highly recommend this book, but not every aspect of the author's interpretation of Christianity. I don't know Goldman's religious leanings, but his discuss [...]

    David P. Goldman (who writes for the Asia Times Online as Spengler) examines the inverted population pyramids of most of the industrial countries, the present tendency of Islamic countries to follow that trend to depopulation and cultural extinction, and speculates on why the demographics of the United States are so different.He begins each section with one of "Spengler's Universal Laws" (which are amusing, subversive, and a little depressing), then provides statistics to support his assertions. [...]

    I figured this was just another 'we are doomed' book and the first third focuses on demographic trends, etc that are standard to the genre. But it's not just now, he goes back to ancient Greece and Rome and ties the story of their demise to our projected problems. He brings in religion and how it influences our decisions, pointing to the initial conversion of European's as a root cause of issues we still deal with today. He points to elements in Islam that appear to be different causes for the s [...]

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